I also have a great Wampler Compressor I run in front of the POD, if you have no overdrives I suggest trying some of the compressors and preamps in the POD as they are better overdrives than most of the cheese pedal mimics. Just love the Pitch Glide if they would fix the pedal controller editor for in tune intervals on the expression pedal would be as good or better than a Whammy.
Modulations, script phase, and phaser are quite good, the phaser is able to adjust from stages of phase, I also like the Barberpole phase. I prefer phase over flange but you can dial a couple of those in to good result.
Delays, a like the dynamic delay and the BinRec echo probably the best bit all of them have their uses. And if I run the POD into my fullrange stereo power amp rig it allows me to expand in stereo which can be rather cool. The stereo delay is marvelous. Many of the effects are true stereo pass. Reverbs, again several really good, I am fond of the cave model, the hall, plate and some of the others have uses.
Not to mention the infinite preset storage ability using a PC. The ability to write over the factory samples is very nice as most of us hate all those anyway. Idiots reviewing the unit using some factory sample without regard to the amp or guitar are indeed useless and quite stupid to the fundamental variables of all guitars and amps.
Anyway, the new POD is a great unit, it has a few bugs you have to work around depending on how you use it but it is a fair bang for the buck. Want to hear the best amp models run it stereo into a full range power amp does a decent job with a lot of effects if you do not have tons of bucks for high end delays, reverbs, filters, wahs etc. Use it right and it does a good job.
I think most have issues when they first mess with it and try to pipe uber gain models into perhaps their small amps and it just does not sound great. I simply love my half stack tube monster and I do not need amp models on it. Just FYI. This is not a plug and play unit or instant sound like your hero sound in a can. It can take months to learn how to really use the unit if you want to get close to its potential. Just does not sound great with any amp but if you set it up correctly the results might amaze you.
Great unit for the money, do not expect the effect array to be what you expect nor amp models making your tiny amp sound like a Bogner 4x And yes BTW, Line6 is terrible at customer service in offering any hint or notion as to a problem they might be fixing or looking at.
I don't think amp modelers play well with real amps at all but different strokes! Excellent posts. They struggle with live tones, recordings sound amazing. No extra pedals at this stage. Thanks for reading. I am honored someone would bother to listen. I used to be a writer, what can I say, I write. You write very well mate, it is great info. I'd love to be able to come back in this thread after this weekend, as I plan on trying all your suggestions with the guitarists tomorrow. I am such a big fan of Line6 tones for recording.
Appreciate your effort! Any luck on tone improvements? I went through everything there was in archive on the Line 6 website, found a lot of tips ideas, the DSP use of various models, which ones have true stereo info like that. I have about 8 sheets pinned on my wall for reference. I was trying to upload the files on here but it does not like the file suffix. Still tweaking, trying different stuff!
Thread bookmarked. Cool, hope things work out. Been my experience the more you work with the unit the better tones you come up with. The HD is doing OK into the 4CM on my half stack but I am not using any amp models as I just do not get the best sound on the amp models trying to feed them into the amp loop in mono no less. Plus my amp head sounds so bloody good it does not need them. When using it with my tube head I prefer to be able to hit the tube front end w the drives and boost to take advantage of the full tube amp ability.
Got some decent effects going being able to split them properly between amp in and amp loop. Works like the detune mode on the real Whammy but tracks polyphonic and I think sounds better but I have not tried the 2 new Whammy pedals yet.
The POD effects are certainly not as good as individual pedals but doing an OK job, some effects are better than others. You have to try different ones to get what sounds best w your guitar and amp. I find the reverbs are really good using the expression pedal to control the intensity of the reverb.
I need to switch some of my pedal order around and hopefully get the MXR next week. Of course I use outboard drives and other gain pedals plus my DejaVibe. I am still waiting and waiting on LINE 6 to fix some issues else I will have to migrate back to all all pedal board eventually. I can adapt to the effects loop db drop but things line the pitch glide not being able to expression pedal an in tune interval is a real pain.
My views on the POD remain the same: -a great recording tool to cover a lot of cool amp, mic and cab recording variants -does OK on a good amp 4CM method but I do not like the amp models on my half stack.
It has various limitations and LINE 6 needs to wake up to some moderate fixes, namely effects loop level and the Pitch Glide controller edit issue. All in all a nice bang for the buck. Getting it for effects is a toss up really, a less expensive way out but do not look for great drives and gain pedals in it. Well, new software update out. Good as usual, I particularly liked the Line 6 Epic model for another gain fest amp.
Amp models remain the feature of this unit, to be sure, but they are only as good as what you pipe them into. Again Line 6 pisses me off, not fixing or improving anything on the effects side of the unit.
Still the impossible to set expression pedal intervals on the Pitch Glide and minor issues on other things which certainly would seem easier to fix than creating an amp model. What bugs me the most about the Pitch Glide is that the harmonizer model in the same section has the correct interval edit capability but they left the Pitch Glide on percentage of pedal range which is useless for anything not an octave.
The excellence of the Whammy harmonizer modes not needing a set key or scale is lost in being able to set an expression pedal for perhaps a 5th up and down which the Whammy does easily, and the new Whammy is polyphonic tracking. Forget offering suggestions or needed fixes as Line 6 has made it clear it is a dead mail drop. They did not attempt to fix any issue many of the higher end users had constantly submitted. I suppose if one never had any pedals and it was all a new experience it would be exciting.
If you think a model of a Metal Zone without the stacked 4 band parametric EQ "sounds like" what the metal zone can do if set correctly then have at it.
That being said, I like all the wahs and find them very usable. The Custom Chrome and Fasel and others sound very good and in some applications better than some stand alone wahs I have had. Don't forget you can assign the same expression pedal to several effects and it only works on them when they are on.
Better than the "chorus" models for my tastes. And my fav effect is a 5th on the pitch glide hard set without the expression pedal as you cannot set a 5th with it, a real loss for this model.
Chorus tracks poly on this by the way while the harmonizer intervals are monophonic track. I do think the tracking on the POD pitch glide is better than the earlier whammy's but the new Whammy is soooo much improved.
Many delays are good, you just sort of have to shop around for the one that suits your needs. I tend to prefer to set my ms timing via note interval timings which tends to work for me and I do not have to tap tempo all the time. Selecting the note interval ms will have the unit offer a ms value for these timings which you do not need to guess to find.
Same with the script phase MXR type phaser, nice mimic. The full on phaser is good as well adjusting for a larger stage size phase, I use that one a lot. The script phase uses almost no DSP like the dynamic delay so you can squeeze these into a preset where the amp is using up the DSP level. Several reverbs are good, depends on what you want.
I like the "cave" and "octaverb" can be fun and use the expression pedal to range the intensity. I find some use for a few of the filters for auto wah type things. Anyway, it is what it is. Can be a fun recording tool, and nice headphone practice station, which can get tedious even with the best cans.
Amp models crank if you are able to run them into a power amp, stereo rules on this unit. I do not really try to pipe the amp models into my half stack as I just do not need them and using mono is not a big thrill for me.
By the way the stereo delay is really excellent if you can get that stereo thing going. When I run models into my fullrange stereo power amp into a split wired 4x12 they crank like the real deal. Do not expect a shoebox, no wattage, little speaker amp to really sound like a Mesa or Marshall. Can be a fun unit and also a frustrating one.
It is not a unit I would recommend at all for the non manual reading plug and play instant preset sounds like crowd which sadly seems to be the marketing angle Line 6 leans towards. Yeah there are hundreds of user created presets you can download if you like fizz and hiss fests of noise choked off by a damn gate. It is possible to design reasonable quiet presets even at uber gain levels but you need to learn how to use the unit. I read your post about the 4CM method and have to agree.
I have to says this is the best setup for me as the cab sim really shine. Every thing from Hi-gain to great clean. My whole point really, if you want the amp models so sound to their potential it is what you run them into and for me that is a full range power amp with a split or 2 cabs.
I am using mine in a modified 4CM hook up to may half stack but I am not using any amp models, just making up for a few effects I do not have at the moment. My amp has both parallel and series loops but yeah that parallel loop is not much use that I have ever come up with. Once I replace more of my back end pedals I will resolve the POD to its own rig opting to either play my guitar amp and board or the POD rig w an attempt using a better drive externally.
I do think the HD amp models are very good and I have gotten some really great sounding tones out of them, but the effects side of things needs work. The issue that after waiting all this time for Line 6 to put out an update and nothing was fixed or improved the better users had submitted to Line 6 is a slap in the face and a wake up call they simply do not care. Had I to do over again I probably would not have gotten the unit and would have just worked more on my board.
It is fun messing with it and I do love the stereo capability but I would probably not have gotten one and the power amp needed to run it. I am thankful I did not ever get the M13 unit I had thought about trying, as the effects are just not anywhere near what a pedal can do for you. Amp models are a win but the effects not so much. I think if you got pedals to incorporate you'd best go thru those and into your amp and just come out its send into the POD for any final FX post your Amp.
Choruses delays and verb. But I can see you loose the Amp modeleing doing that as they don't stack to well. I have seen written using one of the EQs to boost the signal where you get a drop. I am very happy with mine. One thing about sounds and tone. Like anything you can eventually tire from them and then the next thing comes along and you get all reinspired by the sound again. That is the reason I think some guys go thru pedals, Amps and guitars like changes of sox. And alas the regret when years ago you sold that Amp and guitar that are now highly sort.
I totally agree with you on the Amp modelling as superb. Another neat trick is also using the loop send as a recording line in by using it in the Amp block just after an Amp dry, and then the other half of the chain goes thru you stereo FX, verbs, delays etc for monitoring. Hell you can even mic the Amp you monitor it thru or use one of the sends for a line in.
Plenty of choices including a USB interface. All in all a versatile unit. Kudos to you, finally some long posts. Short posts end before I've started reading them. You're a true guitarist! When it comes to sound generated by physical tube filters I have a very hard time replacing them with virtual ones. I think that Line 6 is going in the right direction though, I think the Line 6 POD HD series is a more advanced and better sounding product than the earlier ones.
What I think Line 6 and alike companies need to do is to blind test their amp models. Once those blind tests show the simulated amps are equally good sounding, that's when it all opens up for Line 6. That should be the strategy with all virtual processors. What do you think about the Tweed Amp models in it?? I've tried to find an equally good sound using real amps, but I must say they have been difficult to find Thanks for passing that site, I learnt a few things about the inputs which changes the sound.
Well personally i don't like his presets that much, listened to a bunch of them and maybe his monitors don't translate well, all the other tricks with EQ i use myself, have some of my own.
I mainly use other's presets as a means to gather knowledge, whether it is what not to do or something novel that can be useful. I never really use anyone's presets as my rig is so specialized nothing fits for my use.
Dr Bobbo tends to merge 2 amps together which is also not my thing, you can get a great sound using one, and he sucks up all the DSP level so there is no room for effects. I have preset lists for use w my power amp rig a mix of some pre amp only models.
I also tend to use stack power amp out to not to have to use the mic sims as they drastically alter the tones. The POD can be a hoot messing w recording ideas but if you want a huge live sound you need to let the unit perform to its full potential.
If someone has one of those little amps with a small speaker and low watts do not expect to hear a massive Bogner or Mesa or the body of a Marshall coming out of the little amp. I have set lists for use w my modified 4CM hook up using no amp models and so on.
So trying to pass any of my work on to someone else would just not work for them. I hate Bobbo's use of the overt hard gate, I keep trying to tell users that is not going to work for your guitar and amp, those have to be tuned in for your personal need and levels. I hate gates myself and they do alter the tone. So many create these massive hiss fests of gain and noise and use the POD gate to choke off the noise floor, that is not tone and it is piss poor engineering skill.
Piping the unit into a guitar amp does not work for me. I also find the effect side of things rather weak in fidelity. They work for what I need at the moment but getting this instead of pedals, not so much a great idea. Want great amp models and a huge sound, use a power amp config. I prefer using my split wired 4x12 instead of monitors as anything w a crossover divides and splits the sound.
Posted July 12, Has anyone got any insight on this? Cheers, Ant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites. There are some fairly odd creations that can be made with those 8 blocks. This is pretty mild compared to what can be done.
But watch it anyhow. Posted July 15, Join the conversation You can post now and register later. Reply to this topic Insert image from URL. Go To Topic Listing. Sign In Sign Up. Features Like its predecessor, the Line 6 POD HDX includes more than different types of effects, covering pretty much every conceivable sound a guitarist could want. They include various shades and colors of distortion, compression, flangers, chorus, wahs, EQs, delay, reverb, and even synths and ring modulators.
Virtually any combination of these amp models and effects can be configured in any order and stored in preset locations. You can even assign dual signal paths to emulate playing through two different rigs at once with the same guitar to layer sounds like many pros do. The POD HDX is housed in a rugged metal case and has 12 durable illuminated footswitches as well as a full-sized foot treadle for controlling volume, wah effects and assignable parameters or morphing between multiple amp and effect parameters.
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